Thursday, November 13, 2014

NSFW - Apadravya Piercing Experience


This is going to be graphic and has images of male genitalia.


Today was the day.

I had an appointment 2 days ago, but when I got there, I had headspaced / thought myself out of it.
The fear of the pain wussed me right down and out, and the next day I was kicking myself hard for losing a day that I could have spent healing, instead of waiting. Instead of heading back down being all hyped up, I know myself well enough to wait and see if it's just me being angry at myself for not jumping on an opportunity or for letting myself down - and feeling like I let other people down by not getting it done at the appointed time. So was I just hyped up or was I certain I wanted this? Sleep on it. See about it in the morning.

I went down today, and talked to some good folks, and they let me know when the ever-awesome Yo would be in, and I said sign me up - I've been kicking myself for not getting it done when I was originally here and blah blah blah.

There was a couple of girls ahead of me, getting some jewelry taken out [yes, this happens - this is why you should be sure you want your piercing and aren't just looking for the adrenaline rush or some lesser reason other than that you want it.], so hey, no big deal, gives me a bit more time to wuss out again.

The girls leave and I go back and we talk for a bit and then I get up on the table/bench/chair thing, scrooch my pants down to my knees - the last time Yo did an RPA [Reverse Prince Albert] on me, I had only unbuttoned my pants and scooched them down a little bit. This time she wanted more room to work, and I was okay with that. A cramped work space makes for a higher chance of mistakes, and I wanted noooooo mistakes on this.

You can read the post about getting my RPA and the year that followed here. It's about as graphic as this post and has more images.

I sweat when I'm nervous. And the thought of a needle the size of the wiring in your house going through my dick is enough to make anyone nervous. It turns out the heat was also on high.  We got a fan going and I got comfy and we did it lickity-split.
Normally Yo and I banter back and forth and eventually get down to business, but this time, the banter was less, and yeah, let's do this thing.

This is now the 3rd or 4th most pain I've experienced - somewhere between the RPA and the RPA stretch to a bigger gauge. Again, this was a pierce-and-stretch.

I could have had it just pierced, but that tends to lead to bleeding for a few days on and off, sometimes through wrapping and clothing.

The pierce-and-stretch is like poking a hole and then plugging it with a slightly-bigger-than-the-hole plug. It stretches the freshly-made wound. So yeah, it hurts.

Before starting, we called out to the tattoo artist in the next booth over to see if he was working - he was, so we gave him fair warning I would probably hollar and yell, and everything was okay.
Because hey, if you're getting a tattoo, and your artist is jarred by some person in the next booth over crying about their pain, you don't want your tattoo artist to muck up your tattoo, right?

So.. mark the area, and Yo is being super-careful and triple-checking her markings so they all line up and we're both aware of the risks and such and then okay.

So deep breath in, let it out slow and I knew it was gonna hurt.
Let's be real honest here - no matter how much you abuse yourself, someone else doing it to/for you, it's a different experience. And a needle makes pain like nothing else [except other needles, duh].
And I hollar.

Then the taper and stretch.
And I hollar some more. I had forgotton how much this hurrrrrrts.

It turns out then when Yo clamped my cock, and pierced it, the tissue didn't spread out like expected, so now my cock looks like it's been smushed.  This'll go away in time as the skin lets go of the jewelry and things acclimate to each other.

Now I will say this - no receiving tube was nice. To get an RPA or a PA, a good, reputable, piercer normally inserts a receiving tube down your urethra, which is tapered at one end [even if it's a blunt point, it's a point poking inside your dick] So the discomfort and pain I felt was all needle and stretch and jewelry.
But it still hurt like a pain you want to share with others.

Now the real trick is.. you can't move during this.
Some folks flinch when they get their eyebrow or ear pierced, some almost jump when they get their nipples peirced - don't do that, it could cause issues. And with a needle in your dick?? grip the edge of that bed/table like it owes you a billion dollars [tax free] and it's overdue in paying you.  Hold it still and stay the course, "this too shall pass". And it will. Pain is for a moment, and then it dissipates.
In this case, into a mild achey-throb that  pokes back into pain when I do something like sit down or take the stairs up to my dwelling.

I've done this before so I know the pain will go away. But while it's here, it plays like a full-grown lion-bear with electric meat-hook paws clawing my nerve endings like it's trying to do some kind of sadistic version of snuggling into a warm, spongy, meaty blanket of dick.

Yo wraps me up so I don't bleed into my clothes and we talk about wrapping and if the pain is bugging me, take a tylenol to help with it, but be careful.  So we're all done and I'm lying on the table/bench/chair/thing sweating and trying to cool down and Yo's cleaning up and we're chatting and then it happens. I expected it to happen sooner.

You can't give a penis attention with it wanting to stand up for that attention.
But it won't let go of the jewelry and is still smushed. Ow.
Ow. Ow.
Ow ow ow owwwww ow, knock it off you! Go back to sleep!
I know I had you jabbed with a needle while you were hiding from the cold [it snowed today, if you're a guy, you know what shrinkage entails].

So I hang out for a bit, we share a drink and chat a bit, and it's closing time. Am I gonna take a cab? No, I don't live that far away, besides, it's not that bad out.

Now for wrapping, I've got a technique I used for my RPA [check out that older post] and it's working well so far.

I know this because I'd had a juice box and bottle of water at the tattoo shop, and a can of Cherry Crush soda.  Then going from a warm environment, into the cold, back into a warm environment means I gotta pee. Which means I gotta take the wrapping off - carefully - and re-wrap when I'm done.

A little blood, as expected. A little blood in my urine - as expected. Not through the whole stream, just at the start. Re-wrap and on with my night. Wrapped in a way that I should be able to pee now without having to wrap / re-wrap constantly, I'll find out how well this works when I pee next.

I expect tomorrow will go better.

Day 2:

Healing well. A little bleeding in the dressing from last night - probably because I rolled over in my sleep.  Other than that, nothing noteworthy happening, except I'm still waiting for the swelling to arrive that normally accompanies piercings. So far, there's been no swelling.

Oh.. the jewelry poked through an elastic mesh that I'm using to keep the wrapping in place. That made taking it off for a shower interesting until I noticed what was going on.

Day 4:

Healing as well as expected, especially from the more-painful pierce&stretch.

Now, for me, peeing isn't a big deal. My bathroom sink is about dick-high, so I can just fop it out on the edge of the sink, run some water and good to go. This is how I dealt with peeing, initially, when I had the RPA. But I've come to find I can pee normally, the bar doesn't provide any issues with stream or flow. This is a welcome surprise.

Still no swelling, which was surprising. And after 3 days with no erections, I started to get a little worried. But at the same time, I didn't want to tickle the dragon while still healing, but still....
Well, let's just say that the extra space on the bar I had anticipated would be needed for swelling .... is indeed needed for "swelling".
I could opt [later, like 6 months from now later, at the earliest] for a shorter bar, as it's only at full-steam-ahead do I run out of space for expansion, but seeing as how the bottom ball has only caught on one of my hafada rings once, and that was a bit of a forced objection, I'm not too worried about it.

Day 6:

So there's been no sign of bleeding for 36 hours, and the bar slides easily enough in the shower. the piercing sites [or, top & bottom of the piercing, if you will] are still sensitive, and as I found out last night, getting into and out of vehicles or restaurant booths is a bit of a challenge when you can't just reach down & re-arrange yourself in polite company or public.

I slept without a wrap for the last 2 days, and last night was "au natural", which was actually more comfortable than when wearing pajama bottoms or underwear. Granted, if you tend to roll over or sleep on your stomach, you'll probably want to keep wrapped-and-trapped [wrapped & underwear or pajamas] for extra stability in case you do roll over in your sleep.

Apadravya, Lorum & 2 Hafadas

Fresh from the shower - you can see how much longer the barbel is - which is what you want for any swelling from the piercing, and you would think is good when you have an erection. However, you should really measure your glans [head of your cock] while both flaccid or 'limp', and again when you're erect.  If I had gone with the limp measurement, I'd have been fine until Day 3 when I finally got an erection.  I was starting to get worried because hey, still in the prime of my life and a day without an erection is just weird.

So now I wait for healing until I can get a slightly smaller barbel, which will be a few months at the very earliest. Until then, I think it's gonna be briefs for extra support.

Speaking of underwear, today is an experiment with boxers. The preceding few days were all briefs [a.k.a. tighty-whiteys] and helped with keeping things secure and from wandering around.
With the healing going well, I figured today would be a good day to see how things went with a less-supporting garment.

So far all is good.

4 Weeks:

Okay, 4 week in, and healing amazingly well - despite it being very, very dry where I live. Dry feet, dry scalp, dry everything. So dry I wake up in the middle of the night choking on my own dry throat.

So I've discovered a few things.  It don't matter what kind of underwear you wear - things move and shift as your day goes on, and you may want to consider the next size up until you can get proper-fitting jewelry, because normal-fitting underwear is not too conducive to happy times when you get an erection. Boxers or briefs, it don't matter.  I had a bad experience with both - and frankly, the boxers were worse.

I'm a big guy. Boxer-legs bunch up, the hole in the front rarely has a button and even with one, sometimes your snake slips out. Then you stand up or take a step or whatever, and everything pulls tight - and your dick gets snagged, which is bad enough, but worse is the jewelry getting caught. At least with briefs, it was just a matter of not enough room to grow, as it were.

Speaking of erections [this is something you'll have to do for yourself because we're all a bit different] there's a difference between hard and soft. For me, it ranges between between 1/8" & 1/4" of space on the bar is needed. Unfortunately, that means when I'm not hard, there's that extra space on the bar hanging out, which can get caught on whatever, or for example, while you're toweling off from the shower, the tip of your towel snaps the jewelry and hello, yes I'm awake! Fuuuuuuuck that's gonna be sore.

When taking measurements, make sure you do both soft & hard, and make notes about the sizes required - because you don't want a bar that's too short and pulls-in or pinches when you get a hard-on, and you don't want extra length unnecessarily hanging out, waiting to catch on clothing or toilet seats or whatever. It's still a good idea to have your peircer swap the jewelry for you.

One of the key things to remember - is you've essentially got a Reverse Prince Albert and a Prince Albert piercing.. while PAs are remarkably fast healing, RPAs are slow and finicky - they look like they're healed, then you try to stretch or swap jewelry and it blows out or wants to close up, so be careful, and above all, be patient with it. I'm only 4 weeks into healing, and as much as I want to swap to better fitting jewelry, I've got to wait.

Now the good news is, if you order from somewhere like BodyArtForms , then you're going to have to wait the time it takes to make and ship the jewelry, which can easily cover most of the initial 3-month healing period.

6 Weeks: 

Waiting on custom jewelry. Gotta take the bar down from 1 & 1/4" to 1 & 1/8", losing 1/8" gives me less room to snag, but room to grow.  If you look at the closest images above, specifically the one on the right, take the extra bar sticking out length & cut it in half. That'll be my new wearable length.

On another note - sex was painful. Granted, it's only been 6 weeks from the healing, so there's still plenty of healing to go, but it wasn't the act itself, so much as the insertion/pulling out.  Given the amount of jewelry that is exposed, I expected some awkward sensations, perhaps pain, but this was sharp and immediate - both for her and myself. Once actually inside, she said it felt nice - I can hardly wait to get larger balls on the end of that bar! - but coming out was a bit of a trick.

Now.. condoms are your best friend when it comes to sex. We know this, it makes sense, and so on and so forth, and in this case, Hooo-whee does your best friend come through for you! Stable pressure on both ends of the jewelry, no major worries about pressure on one end ramming the ball into your dick like a tiny blunt hunk of shrapnel, just all-around goodness for everyone involved. ...once you both get accustomed to slipping in / pulling out, that is.

2 Months:

Still waiting on the custom-bar to finish fabrication..and then the shipping.
By and large all things are pretty good. Occasional crusties and rolling over in my sleep are still annoying, but not as painful as they were initially.
Only 10 more months until I give serious consideration to stretching.
Want to make sure it's good and healed and cemented in it's healing before I stretch.

3 Months: 

New jewellery showed up, it's 1/11" shorter but with 1/8" larger balls  [from 1/4 to 3/8].
Fits so much better. Maybe it's the larger balls, or the shorter ball, but no more getting a ball caught in the Hafada rings.  [sad note - had to take the Lorum out, it was starting to reject. Might get it re-done, but with more skin to anchor it this time].

October 6, 2015:
A sad day...
I'd suspected the Appy was migrating - hopefully not rejecting - since about July.
Took measurements about once a month, and the top was migrating towards the urethral opening at about 1mm/month. Start of October, I thought something might be wrong. Took measurements every couple of days... and from Oct. 2 -> 5 it moved 2mm.
I took out the barbell last night, and put a PA ring in through the bottom.
Normally, the top heals up pretty fast,  but after 24 hours I was able to slide a 16ga [shrunk down from 10ga]
Oddly enough, I was able to stretch the bottom hole to 6ga. It had naturally stretched to 8ga.

So now I'm kind of sad it's gone... but sex was never really great with it - once I could find the right angle to slip in without pain to either of us, it was fine... just that initial `hump` to get over, if you'll pardon the pun.
So I'm debating having it done for a third time.. or just going with ye olde regular PA for now.

February 2, 2016:

Someone was curious how the healing looks - bear in mind I had an RPA done, and I messed it up by trying to stretch too soon, then I had an Apadravya done, and it began migrating out after almost a year of being in - these are *my* experiences. Your mileage may vary

Photos were taken today.

So, yeah. The scarring resembles a dimple, it's a bit of hard tissue - well, hard compared to the general squishiness of the tissue, and it doesn't hurt or anything

No loss of sensation or anything - the spot is so small it's almost negligible.


  1. I had a P.A done 3 times but was never satisfied, after reading your reviews I will never consider getting a RPA or a Appy since you had so many issues. The first time I had it, I had it in for around 10 days but took it out because my penis was so inflamed and it left a scar tissue.

    The 2nd time I got it pierced it hurt so much that the scar tissue did not spread out as I wanted to but sadly I had to retire it since the jewellery was pushing down on to the scar tissue causing me extreme pain and had to give it up that following week.

    1 year later its just a massive thick lump scar. The 3rd time I had it pierced was on the right side, but after having it for a while it got in the way of daily activity life.

    Both done at 8g and 3rd time at 14g.

    I am uncircumcised which is a bit of a issue since my foreskin is not that elastic as other peoples. But I have heard guys having more success with P.A and Appy when they are cut.

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    How is the scar tissue on the top of the glans ?

  2. P.S are you able to update current photos ? I just want to see how it turned out.

    1. Sorry for the delayed response, I need to check my settings because I didn't receive notification of responses to this post.

      Wow.. 2 piercings done at 8ga..that seems ..odd to me. Then again at 14? 14 seems too small for this area - again, just my opinion.

      The scar tissue is like a dimple in the glans, like if you were to use your finger and push a dent in some play-doh, kind of thing.
      It'll be a couple days, but yeah, I can upload some current photos.

      And you're correct - guys who are circumcised tend to heal "better", because there's no foreskin adding pressure and movement to the jewellery through daily activity.

  3. I have been to a urologist to get my scar checked out but unfortunately there's not much that can be done, but as stated as time goes on the scar will soften. Honestly it feels like there's a small BB pebble in mu urethra. But I guess I was a unlucky candidate. Do you plan on getting any other piercings ?

    1. I think about's like a distraction in the back of my head. If I got any more, I'd probably redo the hafadas I had...sometimes I consider the Apadravya, but placement could be tricky, so I'd have to look at problems / complications and such for the new placement.

      As for your scar tissue, got any virgin[or cold-pressed] olive oil?
      Massage a little bit into the scar tissue, I've found that helps. Some folks swear by emu oil, but it's fairly pricey by comparison.

  4. Hey thank's for replying back. I have been using emu oil at the start. I have been messaging ever since, but I think it has slowly reduced by a small fraction. I usually pressed it firm and hard but the scar will be sore and sensitive for a while. The more I touch and annoy the scar the more it will become sore. But if I leave it alone there doesn't seem to be a problem. A problem that I have to deal with. But hopefully time will tell.

    I have had my ear pierced "lobe" and it has been two years and I believe it hasn't healed yet. I might be one of those unlucky candidates to piercings.

    All the best for you future mods.


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